{"id":290,"date":"2018-11-29T21:05:23","date_gmt":"2018-11-30T02:05:23","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.mgreene.org\/?p=290"},"modified":"2018-11-29T21:05:23","modified_gmt":"2018-11-30T02:05:23","slug":"new-toy-asrock-j3455-itx","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.mgreene.org\/?p=290","title":{"rendered":"New toy &#8211; ASRock J3455-ITX"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Part because of a mistake and part for fun, I purchased an <a href=\"http:\/\/asrock.com\/mb\/Intel\/J3455-ITX\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">ASRock J3455-ITX<\/a>.\u00a0 I tried to boot a couple different OSs without much luck, I could not get CoreOS to boot or even a Gentoo LiveCD. Granted, it is low power and slow, so it might have been my impatience. Finally, I tried a Gentoo minimal install DVD and it booted, so in the spirit of making something easy much harder this would be yet another Gentoo build.<\/p>\n<h2>System make up.<\/h2>\n<p>The system make up by the time it was done:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>ASRock J3455-ITX Intel Quad-Core Processor J3455 (up to 2.3GHz) Mini ITX Motherboard\/CPU Combo <a href=\"https:\/\/www.newegg.com\/Product\/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157728&amp;Description=ASRock%20J3455&amp;cm_re=ASRock_J3455-_-13-157-728-_-Product\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">(Newegg)<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Silverstone 0.8mm Steel Body Tek Acrylic Front Panel for Mini-ITX Media Center\/HTPC Case Cases ML05B <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B00DU6RVK8\/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">(Amazon)<\/a><\/li>\n<li>SilverStone Technology 300W SFX Form Factor 80 PLUS BRONZE Power Supply with +12V single rail, Active PFC (ST30SF) <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B00FA4KP8S\/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">(Amazon)<\/a><\/li>\n<li><del>Timetec Hynix IC 16GB Kit (2x8GB) DDR3L 1866MHz PC3-14900 Unbuffered Non-ECC 1.35V CL13 2Rx8 Dual Rank 204 Pin SODIMM Apple Memory RAM Module Upgrade (16GB Kit (2x8GB)) <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B07FV16JFQ\/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">(Amazon)<\/a><\/del> <strong>Returning to Amazon<\/strong><\/li>\n<li>G.SKILL 8GB (2 x 4GB) 204-Pin DDR3 SO-DIMM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Laptop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-8GBSQ<a href=\"https:\/\/www.newegg.com\/Product\/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231295\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"> (Newegg)<\/a><\/li>\n<li>SAMSUNG 850 EVO 2.5&#8243; 250GB SATA III 3D NAND Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-75E250B\/AM (Had this from an old system)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>BIOS Version\u00a0J3455-ITX, BIOS P1.60 01\/16\/2018 &#8211; <em>Out of the box BIOS version.<\/em><\/p>\n<h2>BIOS Update<\/h2>\n<p>Here is the catch, on the ASRock site it lists 1.40 then jumps to 1.70 as a bridge before installing 1.80. I tried the 1.70 from a fat32 USB and the board would not recognize the firmware. So screw it, I just went to 1.80 and it worked. I have to assume the 1.60 is already a bridge to 1.80.<\/p>\n<h2>Cooling<\/h2>\n<p>Probably will not put a fan in because the\u00a0passive cooling seems to work well.\u00a0 There are two fan connections on the board (CPU and chassis) and settings in the board configuration. Compiling webkit, which is a grind, the temps 30+ minutes into compiling webkit:<\/p>\n<p><code>coretemp-isa-0000<br \/>\nAdapter: ISA adapter<br \/>\nPackage id 0: +131.0\u00b0F  (high = +221.0\u00b0F, crit = +221.0\u00b0F)<br \/>\nCore 0:       +131.0\u00b0F  (high = +221.0\u00b0F, crit = +221.0\u00b0F)<br \/>\nCore 1:       +131.0\u00b0F  (high = +221.0\u00b0F, crit = +221.0\u00b0F)<br \/>\nCore 2:       +129.2\u00b0F  (high = +221.0\u00b0F, crit = +221.0\u00b0F)<br \/>\nCore 3:       +129.2\u00b0F  (high = +221.0\u00b0F, crit = +221.0\u00b0F)<br \/>\nacpitz-virtual-0<br \/>\nAdapter: Virtual device<br \/>\ntemp1: +132.8\u00b0F (crit = +212.0\u00b0F)<\/code><\/p>\n<h2>Memory<\/h2>\n<p>This is a real BS point. ASRock and a number of other board manufacturers advertise 16 Gig of RAM usable. I read all over the internet this thing can run with 16 Gig.\u00a0I gave it a try and everything SEEMED to work.<\/p>\n<p>I gave it a shot (see above in System makeup) using 16 Gig (8&#215;2)\u00a0DDR3L 1866 RAM. Like I already said, it seemed to work, but under heavy loads I got random kernel panics (Kernel 4.18.20), usually SMP NOPTI and sometimes even more spectacular blow ups.\u00a0I was thinking bad RAM module?\u00a0Anyway, I pulled a module and ran 8 Gig with the result that I cannot kill it with any load.\u00a0A quick check of the Intel J3455 Datasheet says only an 8 Gig MAX:<a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/wordpress.greenenet.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/j3455_memory.png\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-296\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/wordpress.greenenet.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/j3455_memory.png?resize=541%2C210\" alt=\"\" width=\"541\" height=\"210\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mgreene.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/j3455_memory.png?w=541&amp;ssl=1 541w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mgreene.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/j3455_memory.png?resize=300%2C116&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 541px) 100vw, 541px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>In ASRock&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/asrock.com\/mb\/Intel\/J3455-ITX\/?cat=Memory\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Memory Support List<\/a>, only\u00a0DDR3 Crucial <em><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">1600<\/span><\/em> 16GB CT204864BF160B is listed for this configuration. So, in conclusion it might run with 16 Gig, but not always. I do not care, I really only need 8Gig and can return the other RAM to Amazon, saving some money.<\/p>\n<p>EDIT:\u00a0 I have since read that the board might not be automatically powering the RAM or the RAM is not quite right. A possible fix might be to take the board out if AUTO and increasing the voltage or lowering the speed. I have not tried this &#8230;<\/p>\n<h2>Hardware Error<\/h2>\n<p>This is my real hard spot with this board:<\/p>\n<p><code>mce: [Hardware Error]: CPU 0: Machine Check: 0 Bank 4: e600000000020408<br \/>\nmce: [Hardware Error]: TSC 0 ADDR fef13b80<br \/>\nmce: [Hardware Error]: PROCESSOR 0:506c9 TIME 1543272637 SOCKET 0 APIC 0 microcode 32<\/code><\/p>\n<p>This seems to be common on all the ASRock boards and a lengthy <a href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.redhat.com\/show_bug.cgi?id=1467040\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Redhat (here) post<\/a> gets to the source. The most interesting:<\/p>\n<p><em>Tony Luck 2017-08-02 13:15:00 EDT<\/em><br \/>\n<em>I wrote a trivial EFI program to dump the machine check banks and put it on a USB stick a \\EFI\\BOOT\\BOOTX64.EFI, then booted that USB stick.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>The machine check was already logged at this point.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>So Linux (and grub boot loader) aren&#8217;t involved. Tracking with someone who supports BIOS on this platform now.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>So, this is some kind of issue with the BIOS and during boot it picks up on the already existing error. <a href=\"https:\/\/communities.intel.com\/message\/555180#555180\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Intel NUC Kits also had this problem, but fixed it in the BIOS.<\/a>\u00a0It seems to be a problem that probably will not go away, but does not cause issues.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Part because of a mistake and part for fun, I purchased an ASRock J3455-ITX.\u00a0 I tried to boot a couple different OSs without much luck, I could not get CoreOS [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"_links_to":"","_links_to_target":""},"categories":[12,18,20],"tags":[49,57,61,62],"class_list":["post-290","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-gentoo","category-kernel","category-linux","tag-asrock-j3455","tag-gentoo","tag-j3455","tag-j3455-itx"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":307,"url":"https:\/\/www.mgreene.org\/?p=307","url_meta":{"origin":290,"position":0},"title":"ASRock J3455-ITX running Gentoo","author":"Mike","date":"December 2, 2018","format":false,"excerpt":"ASRock J3455-ITX running stable Gentoo Gnome and Kernel 4.19.5.","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Gentoo&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Gentoo","link":"https:\/\/www.mgreene.org\/?cat=12"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/wordpress.greenenet.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/12\/itx_gnome.png?resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200,"srcset":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/wordpress.greenenet.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/12\/itx_gnome.png?resize=350%2C200 1x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/wordpress.greenenet.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/12\/itx_gnome.png?resize=525%2C300 1.5x"},"classes":[]},{"id":460,"url":"https:\/\/www.mgreene.org\/?p=460","url_meta":{"origin":290,"position":1},"title":"NUC7PJYH:  Gentoo UEFI Configure","author":"Mike","date":"February 20, 2021","format":false,"excerpt":"This is no fun exercise. 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